Talk:Wp/ine/Gᵘ̯ei̯topəutiom

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Hmong Dawb Wikipedia
Thanks for contributing to the Hmong Dawb Wikipedia Incubator! Would you be interested in working to get the site interface translated into Hmong? WhisperToMe (talk) 08:14, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Wp/mww
Hello! I don't wanna look too daring in your eyes, but it's very obvious that you use Google Translator while editing pages in Hmong Daw. Is it actually true? --Midnight Gambler (talk) 08:53, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Indoeuropeo
Estas usando Esta gramatica para elaborar esta Wikipedia? --Katxis (talk) 22:23, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Indoeuropeo
No, no estoy usando esa gramática (perdón si esta no es la forma de responder pero soy nuevo en esto) --Guillermo2149 (talk) 22:33, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Yo no tengo ni idea de "proto-indoeuropeo" pero te puedo ayudar con plantillas, categorías, imágenes, etc. Para responder, tienes que hacer click en donde pone "talk" en mi firma, que te lleva a la pagina "User talk:Katxis" y ahí me respondes. Un saludo. --Katxis (talk) 23:10, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Proper Proto-Indo-European grammar spelling and dictionary

 * http://www.koeblergerhard.de/idgwbhin.html

Alphabet is here: http://www.koeblergerhard.de/idg/idg_vorwort.html

Find "IV. Lautsystem" string and here it is. AA (talk) 18:36, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you! --Guillermo2149 (talk) 18:45, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Months and weekdays translated
I translated to PIE all months basing names on Latin numeral complete sequence. I translated to PIE all weekdays basing names on Latin nominal complete sequence. AA (talk) 19:39, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! --Guillermo2149 (talk) 22:13, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Using English weekdays is elsewhere replaced by placing Latin-derived names there. AA (talk) 12:16, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
 * See Wp/ine/Essential_dictionary - all days already done according to Latin scheme. 81.88.49.52 13:07, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

Notorious bad spellings
These edits Special:Contributions/EggSalt are notoriously against Kobler/Pokorny standard. 81.88.49.29 09:49, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Names in Wp/ine/Leizdom U̯ik̑īpē̆di̯ā by above contributions are not in accord with Kobler/Pokorny, I always fix them. AA (talk) 14:13, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Above Special:Contributions/EggSalt continue being not correct. AA (talk) 15:57, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

This IP Special:Contributions/89.240.195.64 falsifies things. It belongs to above misedits. 81.88.49.29 17:24, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Verbal abuse. 185.28.18.195 19:07, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Two main pages
We had two main pages, so I moved some things so that redundant main page is used as template. AA (talk) 16:05, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
 * But... why? I think we're not gonna need it, it just had to be redirected to the new one (Prmom Paginom) --U̯elk̑elmos·INE (talk) 16:09, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

I think it is because you forgot what is here partially. So I repaired it already. AA (talk) 16:11, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Wrong move
You moved article about horse, but your move proved wrong, see http://www.koeblergerhard.de/idgwbhin.html
 * Thank you --U̯elk̑elmos·INE (talk) 18:52, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

I always copypaste all PIE words from Kobler. If you are not sure how PIE word is spelled, please rather check Kobler, than your memory. AA (talk) 18:56, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Visual Editor
From my experience, Visual Editor is problematic. I propose that you turn it off and use source editor. AA (talk) 18:25, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
 * That's fine, thank you for your message --U̯elk̑elmos·INE (talk) 19:23, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

What do you mean? Turning off Visual Editor? AA (talk) 20:22, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, I'm not understanding you, just in case, I'm not a native English speaker as you can see... Do you think I should use source editor instead of visual editor as I always do? --U̯elk̑elmos·INE (talk) 20:32, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Yes, you should use source editor instead of visual editor as you always do. It is more responsive. AA (talk) 20:36, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh, that's fine, I will do that. Thanks! --U̯elk̑elmos·INE (talk) 20:44, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Yes, source editor is much faster. AA (talk) 20:48, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
 * By the way, don't you think we must ellaborate a more effective communication method so that this site can be more organized? --U̯elk̑elmos·INE (talk) 20:53, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Most effective is your talk page. AA (talk) 09:03, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Template
Someone properly translated w:meta:Template:User language/ine already. But it does not work here at incubator, while it already works at meta. AA (talk) 09:03, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for informing! --U̯elk̑elmos·INE (talk) 18:06, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
 * It still doesn't work in the Incubator or in Meta, but it already works with Wikipedia, so go ahead! and add PIE to your Babel template!... Preview: click here
 * Update: Now it's available in Meta and English Wikipedia --U̯elk̑elmos·INE (talk) 18:39, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Which syntax it uses? AA (talk) 18:42, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, I didn't understand you... If you say there's an error in the translation, I just copied the translation. --U̯elk̑elmos·INE (talk) 18:50, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

I mean wikicode string. AA (talk) 19:02, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Placement
m:Template:User_language/ine should be placed at Template:User_language/ine, but only administrators can create this. Can you ask them to do this? AA (talk) 16:13, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Indogermanisches etymologisches Wörterbuch
Whilst I was browsing around your Proto-Indo-European test wiki, I noticed you used "Indogermanisches etymologisches Wörterbuch" as your word source. Whilst this was good at the time of it's making, it's from 1959 and outdated compared to the information that we have today. For ex. Laryngeals are widely accepted, and it would be a good idea to use them. -AngrySheep03 (talk) 15:20, 14 August 2016 (UTC)


 * I agree with what you're saying, and I already thought about it. That's why I proposed to make a change and to use only the information we find on Wikipedia (most of the information is from Beekes). I already proposed it but seems like I'm not having that much support. As you may notice, I'm not a professional linguist or PIE reconstructor, I just wanted to create this project and people to help me with it. Would you help me to discuss them? --Guillermo2149 (talk) 15:34, 14 August 2016 (UTC)


 * See Wp/ine/Pr̥mo·Sendʰro·U̯erokᵘ̯esi̯om for reason why Pokorny and Köbler is superior. It is simply because PIE has its most similar descendants in its indoiranian daughters. It is good for Proto Indo Hittite this reform proposed here. Such thing should have separate wiki at best. We should not deface PIE into PIH, which is different thing, since PIH actually might never exist, according to this source which supports indoiranian branch as most similar to its PIE ancestor. Whatever is in Wikimedia articles, it resembles Greeklish leetspeak oddity. Never ever we should allow such amatorish oddity here. Beekes defaces PIE by word-internal capital letters and numbers, contrary to Pokorny and Köbler, who only cite such forms as inferior ones. Oddities from Wikimedia articles most obviously use y instead of j, and j instead of dz. Of course, Wiktionary never ever has as more as 7 thousand PIE roots which is provided by both Pokorny and Köbler summarized. What does Beekes with his mixed case H#, now looks like nothing else than defacing of actual PIE into dubious PIH. Besides greeklish/leetspeak H#, i found in Beekes another spurious thing, namely "ʔ" blatantly ripped off from Poul Anderson, more specifically from his High Crusade alien names like Prʔ*tans. As you see, Kobler and Pokorny still allows normal word uppercasing like in God, Vatican, etc... 188.226.213.28 16:12, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Life of Jesus Christ, which itself is revelation from God, says the following: "The first tongue, the mother tongue, spoken by Adam, Shem, and Noah, was different, and it is now extant only in isolated dialects. Its first pure offshoots are the Zend, the sacred tongue of India, and the language of the Bactrians. In those languages, words may be found exactly similar to the Low German of my native place. The book that I see in modern Ctesiphon, on the Tigris, is written in that language." It simply reveals that indoiranian branch is most similar to its ancestor from beginning of time. As you see, laryngeal/glottal theory is dismissed by God as false one, since nothing anatolian is called as first pure offshoots of PIE there. 67.23.249.164 16:23, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
 * We should have two wikis here, one for Proto Indo European without laryngeals, and other for Proto Indo Hittite with laryngeals. AA (talk) 16:36, 14 August 2016 (UTC)